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I'm using Java 8 for my rumbles. However, it seems that some bot stopped working on Java 8? etc. MoxieBot.

I'm also using Java 8 and its features for bot development. However, I compile my bot with Java 8, then transpile the bytecode to Java 6 compatible using retrolambda, as Java 8 compiled code will generally refuse to run on lower platform.

Xor (talk)04:45, 4 September 2017

Cross porting from Java 8 seems to be excessive, if the rest of us are running Java 8. But let's see what others are running.

Beaming (talk)05:20, 4 September 2017

But why risk getting low scores when there are someone using Java6? I think anyone who participant in rumble should make the bot compatible with Java 6 until it is not officially supported by the literumble.

Maybe what we really need is a vote for moving the minimum requirement of running rumble from Java 6 to Java 8?

Xor (talk)10:18, 4 September 2017

> what we really need is a vote

The problem with the Robocode community is that everyone talks making changes, but no one actually does anything.

MultiplyByZer0 (talk)10:58, 4 September 2017

Please don't be so harsh.

Our problem that we don't have large enough community. We can count active users in two hands. You cannot expect everyone to jump on the issues right away.

At least we can make reasonably complete bug reports and see if they can be addressed.

Beaming (talk)15:25, 4 September 2017

Apologies, Xor and Beaming.

MultiplyByZer0 (talk)21:23, 4 September 2017

No worries. I can take criticism when it is justified. You did a lot of wiki clean up work alone which was long overdue. I am not surprised that you felt that the rest of us do not care.

Beaming (talk)01:18, 6 September 2017
 
 
 
 
 

By the way, ncj.MoxieBot 1.0 is running OK on my machine. It sometimes freezes but it seems to be the fault of the internal logic.

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MoxieBot is completely not working on my older machine (not the one I use to run RoboRumble). Output of MyFirstRobot vs. MoxieBot:

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Round 1 of 10
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C:\robocode\robots\.data\ncj\MoxieBot.data
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 60
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 61
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 62
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 132
Skipped firing solution at turn: 149
Skipped firing solution at turn: 171
Skipped firing solution at turn: 210
Skipped firing solution at turn: 211
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 249
Skipped firing solution at turn: 287
Skipped firing solution at turn: 469
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 546
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Damage Taken: 96.0
Energy Fired: 1.1000000000000025
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
SYSTEM: ncj.MoxieBot 1.0 has died
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Round 2 of 10
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C:\robocode\robots\.data\ncj\MoxieBot.data
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 64
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 105
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 144
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 145
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 182
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 220
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 221
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 256
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 292
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SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 330
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 369
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 406
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 442
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 477
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 515
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 553
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Damage Taken: 96.0
Energy Fired: 0.0
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
SYSTEM: ncj.MoxieBot 1.0 has died
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Round 3 of 10
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C:\robocode\robots\.data\ncj\MoxieBot.data
Skipped firing solution at turn: 64
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 104
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 138
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 212
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 249
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 283
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 319
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SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 356
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SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 393
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 431
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 468
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 503
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 504
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 577
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 616
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 653
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 688
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 726
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 727
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Damage Taken: 96.0
Energy Fired: 0.3000000000000007
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
SYSTEM: ncj.MoxieBot 1.0 has died
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Round 4 of 10
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C:\robocode\robots\.data\ncj\MoxieBot.data
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 36
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 75
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 148
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 222
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 281
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Damage Taken: 96.0
Energy Fired: 0.20000000000000284
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
SYSTEM: ncj.MoxieBot 1.0 has died
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Round 5 of 10
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C:\robocode\robots\.data\ncj\MoxieBot.data
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 66
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 102
Skipped firing solution at turn: 140
Skipped firing solution at turn: 141
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 178
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 179
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 214
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Damage Taken: 96.0
Energy Fired: 0.10000000000000024
SYSTEM: ncj.MoxieBot 1.0 has died
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Round 6 of 10
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C:\robocode\robots\.data\ncj\MoxieBot.data
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 58
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 59
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 96
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 97
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 131
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 169
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 170
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 207
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Damage Taken: 96.0
Energy Fired: 0.0
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
SYSTEM: ncj.MoxieBot 1.0 has died
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Round 7 of 10
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C:\robocode\robots\.data\ncj\MoxieBot.data
Skipped firing solution at turn: 102
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 120
Skipped firing solution at turn: 153
Skipped firing solution at turn: 154
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 257
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 333
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Damage Taken: 92.0
Energy Fired: 0.6000000000000002
SYSTEM: ncj.MoxieBot 1.0 has died
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Round 8 of 10
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C:\robocode\robots\.data\ncj\MoxieBot.data
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 68
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 106
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Damage Taken: 96.0
Energy Fired: 0.0
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
SYSTEM: ncj.MoxieBot 1.0 has died
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Round 9 of 10
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C:\robocode\robots\.data\ncj\MoxieBot.data
Skipped firing solution at turn: 100
Skipped firing solution at turn: 101
Skipped firing solution at turn: 102
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 138
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 177
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 215
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 254
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 293
Skipped firing solution at turn: 373
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 407
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 479
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Damage Taken: 96.0
Energy Fired: 0.4999999999999976
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
SYSTEM: ncj.MoxieBot 1.0 has died
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Round 10 of 10
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C:\robocode\robots\.data\ncj\MoxieBot.data
Skipped firing solution at turn: 155
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 307
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 367
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 399
SYSTEM: MoxieBot 1.0 skipped turn 419
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
Damage Taken: 96.0
Energy Fired: 0.8000000000000018
Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked. Fix this!
SYSTEM: ncj.MoxieBot 1.0 has died
MultiplyByZer0 (talk)20:24, 4 September 2017

I do not think that above report indicates that MoxieBot is broken. Actually, the log indicates that the bot was working and was reporting sensible things. The part about

SYSTEM: ncj.MoxieBot 1.0 has died

is due to its logic: MoxieBot does not fire when there are no bullets in the air. If the other bot runs out of energy, then they both wait and robocode gives an energy penalty kick after certain "no fire" timeout. Eventually they both killed by penalty energy drain, which is reported as "has died".

I played MoxieBot in the GUI it gives similar log entry while it is moving and firing.

Beaming (talk)01:31, 5 September 2017

In the log above, there are 25 lines of "Hit by a wave that was not being correctly tracked", indicating MoxieBot losing energy. That would be consistent with MoxieBot stalling and MyFirstRobot getting a 100% hitrate on it. MyFirstRobot fires 1.0 power bullets, which cause 4.0 damage, and 100 / 4 = 25 hits to kill = 25 log messages.

I also made a video of MoxieBot vs. TrackFire on that computer. It stalls for 2 rounds, but works on the other 8. It doesn't seem so bad when not minimized.

I wonder if the bug is that MoxieBot loses its radar lock and cannot regain it, which wouldn't be that hard of a fix...

MultiplyByZer0 (talk)02:37, 5 September 2017
Edited by author.
Last edit: 04:44, 5 September 2017

Yep. This is what I see as well. It seems to be a bug in the MoxieBot logic. Not in the robocode.

By the way ThreadDeath is also there. Looks like I need to try java7 or earlier and see if ThreadDeath related losses are there.

Beaming (talk)04:37, 5 September 2017

I also checked the historical robocode 1.8.3, MoxieBot has the same buggy behaviour.

Beaming (talk)04:41, 5 September 2017