Migration and upgrade
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Fixed:
- Images on the old wiki
- Short URLs again, same as before, so the rumble clients should be happy.
Still missing:
- RumbleStats
- Twitter sidebar
- Backup is old
Fixed:
- Images (they were broken in the short URL migration)
New:
- We now have https!! Go to https://robowiki.net for safer browsing.
Fixed:
- http redirects to https, except for if you have action=raw in the URL, for roborumble compatibility
- This fixes if you log in with https, it would redirect you to http and then not allow your login token for security reasons.
Can we not forcefully redirect? I think it breaks my rss reader and probably others too.
If someone wants to use https, I understand them. But one day the certificate will expire, and stupidly paranoid modern browsers do not even let you see pages behind expired certificates.
Out edits are public anyway, I see no harm someone sniffing them.
Yes, I know that sometimes pages content is modified by evil providers but I think it is less harm than not able to see content of a page at all.
It fixed a bug with the login, which redirected back to http for some reason. I'll add an exception for the RSS URL to not do redirect, like I did for the roborumble. Can you think of any other URLs which need exceptions?
There is some differnces between new and old wikis.
The old one had some special api enabled. Specificly there were working two special urls
http://robowiki.net/w/ http://robowiki.net/api.php
they allowed to check for incremental changes.
They also gave access to rss reader.
Ok, I'm not sure how that was set up exactly. It is better not to have php files in the root namespace, or using directory defaults for file access. But there is now: http://robowiki.net/w/api.php
This should have what you need.
Surely I would like to help with RumbleStats.
Btw we still have the data since Oct. last year on the original host right? Can we merge database so we don’t lose changes from here.
Hopefully the old data can be recovered. But it might take some time.
Btw literumble seems to crash, right after I started 8 roborumble instances...
It used to work OK, but now it returns http 500.
Literumble shouldn't be affected, it doesn't know that the robowiki exists except for the link on the landing page. I'll take a look.
Hi. Thanks a lot for resurrecting the wiki from ashes. Must be hell of the work.
I have git-wiki backup, last dated by Mon Mar 16 18:17:51 2020 +0000, with the commit message "Raven 1.1.1 -> 1.1.2" by Dsekercioglu. It is not exactly Mediawiki format, but it has pages in the file format: like normal pages, discussion, and attached files.
I will be more than happy to feed it back to wiki.
Speaking of the backups. I have raised this question before but maybe we got strong enough message this time. We need some ways to replicate the mirrors of the wiki. My study of mediawiki a couple years ago showed that it has no built in mechanism for incremental backups. I was able to download a GB xml dump of wiki, but I did not date to do it more than once a year. So full dump is stale.
Is there a way to have a shadow "read only" wiki?
I'm not sure how to reintegrate these kind of backups. If there is some process you know, I'd be happy to try. I still have a local mediawiki running on my raspberry-pi that I practiced the transfer on first, so we don't risk messing anything up. But there is also the internal state missing, including things like users. I have more hopes of being able to integrate the more recent backups from the original server, we just need to wait for the old hosting provider to bring the image back.
For future, I've also set up a daily backup to my local NAS of the database, mediawiki/oldwiki install and apache config. This would let me restore from scratch in less than a day. Hopefully it never needs to be used.
Well on my side, gitted wiki looks like collection of files corresponding to pages in old wiki. For example I have the latest version of RoboRumble Participants in the rumbles. I can either send them to you as patches, or as final verison of pages changed since your backup time.
I can even try to push them into the wiki, but the authorship will not be preserved.
How large is daily backups? I would love to provide some redundancy.
So you have the raw wikitext? Let's hold off a little longer - if we get the original that would be ideal of course, but this is good to have as an alternative. Maybe a few key pages should be updated ASAP - rumbles for example. And if we don't get the originals back, then I'm not too concerned about authorship - the wiki already went through a migration once.
Daily backups are ~250MB. I have daily for a week, then weekly for a month, then monthly. So total will be under 10GB for a long time. Extra backups can't hurt :-)
Yes. I have raw wikitexts. They also come with authorship, but I guess there is no way to stick it back.
Ok. I can manage 10GB. No problem. Though, it is sounds very wasteful for a few kB of text files changed weekly.
I don't know if there is an easy way to get diffs - it must be possible for mysql slave mirrors, but the wiki is small so we can be lazy with our backup mechanisms ;-)
I've been using mysql slaves for years, and it is not only easy to set up, but also a perfect candidate as a readonly mirror of the wiki.
And the slave can be set as master anytime, making the mirror the main wiki when the original one goes down. This ensures zero downtime if set up automatically.
Anyway, this is not a replacement of monthly backup. If a hacker managed to run drop db, the slave will also be destroyed.
New captcha is awesome! I barely pass the exam :)
Though, could it be disabled for logged in users? I will probably do some automatic restores from backup. It would stop my bots (they will use my password and login).
Oh, I didn't realize they were on for everything. I will change it only to the creation of accounts.
However, could you make a separate user for your bot, and we can set it as a Bot user. Then it is easier to filter out in the Recent Changes page.
I checked, it is only set to give a CAPTCHA when adding a URL, which is critical for fighting spam. However, I have set it to skip CAPTCHA for bots. So you should create a user for your bot, and then we can give it 'Bot' permissions.
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maybe we should whitelist literumble
or rumblestats will cause captcha each time a edit is done
also dropbox, github, google drive etc. should get whitelisted, which helps when editing rumble participants
I also suggest adding wikipedia/mediawiki which is frequent source of quoting.
I've whitelisted some of these - feel free to add more as/when you think of them: MediaWiki:Captcha-addurl-whitelist.
per en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Captcha-addurl-whitelist
it seems that the lines should not begin with \, rather \b, as word boundaries, for matching domains.
now it shows error message each time captcha is shown ;(
and I think error/warning messages should be turned off now, as no need to debug anymore
or it will cause precious information to be leaked.
Done
The RumbleStats extension should be fixed now ;)
by following guidance on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parser_functions
It's broken just because mediawiki changed format of extensions.
Hi. I think I was able to recover normal pages (except some which are just redirecting pages).
The main problem are discussions. They are using different API for web injecting, and this API is much more elaborative for the quick parser. Quick glance in the missing threads shows that they are not that important for robocoders.
The one which we probably need to recreate or at least summarize, is devoted to RobocodeGL. User:Xor would you mind to repost links to the latest releases, and I will try to add up with my command line knowledge so it runs on linux with missing OpenGL components.
