Talk:Energy Management - Revision history

Rednaxela: /* Improvement */ inverse of the bulletpower formula

2009-11-04T02:19:38Z

Improvement: inverse of the bulletpower formula

Hvilela at 23:52, 3 November 2009

2009-11-03T23:52:52Z

Nat: /* Merge with Selecting Fire Power */

2009-05-20T15:17:16Z

Merge with Selecting Fire Power

Nat: /* Merge with Selecting Fire Power */ where?

2009-05-20T15:04:51Z

Merge with Selecting Fire Power: where?

Voidious: /* Merge with Selecting Fire Power */ Robocode 2...

2009-05-20T14:42:15Z

Merge with Selecting Fire Power: Robocode 2...

Nat: /* Merge with Selecting Fire Power */ robocode2?

2009-05-20T14:36:06Z

Merge with Selecting Fire Power: robocode2?

Voidious: /* Merge with Selecting Fire Power */ agree

2009-05-20T14:04:46Z

Merge with Selecting Fire Power: agree

Nat: /* Merge with Selecting Fire Power */ agree

2009-05-20T13:09:43Z

Merge with Selecting Fire Power: agree

Rednaxela: New section: Talk:Energy Management#Merge with [[Selecting Fire Power|Merge with Selecting Fire Power]]

2009-05-20T12:41:20Z

New section: Talk:Energy Management#Merge with [[Selecting Fire Power|Merge with Selecting Fire Power]]

Nfwu: Discussion: Old wiki

2008-09-26T13:46:47Z

Discussion: Old wiki

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== Old Wiki ==

Out of curiousity, does anyone know the most commonly called getXXX() methods?--Starrynte

I'm not really sure what you mean. You call those methods in your bot, so it really depends which ones you decide to call the most. Also, what does this have to do with EnergyManagement? --wcsv

Maybe...because if you call getXXX() you can get disabled. I'll post on Starrynte then (my reason is a lame one)--Starrynte

You can only call getXXX methods something like 10,000 times per tick. Maybe you are forgetting to call execute() in the while() loop of your run method? If you really need to do 10,000 things wih a value in one tick, just assign it to a variable instead of using getXXX in your loop. -- Voidious

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	== Improvement ==		== Improvement ==
	The calc to fire just enough energy to kill an opponent is not trivial and <code>enemyEnergy / 4</code> is not the best option. Anyone could post the right calc here? --[[User:Hvilela\|Henrique Vilela (Hvilela)]] 23:52, 3 November 2009 (UTC)		The calc to fire just enough energy to kill an opponent is not trivial and <code>enemyEnergy / 4</code> is not the best option. Anyone could post the right calc here? --[[User:Hvilela\|Henrique Vilela (Hvilela)]] 23:52, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
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		+	As [[Robocode/Game Physics]] says, damage is <code>(4 * firepower)</code>, plus <code>(2 * (power - 1))</code> when firepower is greater than 1. That means <code>(4 * firepower)</code> when firepower is 1 or less, and <code>(6 * firepower) - 2</code> when firepower is above one. Firepower above 1 means damage above 4 due to the formula. Thus the inverse formula is <code>firepower = (energy <= 4) ? (energy / 4) : ((energy + 2) / 6)</code>. Hopefully my explaination makes sense. --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 02:19, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

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	:::: OK, ok, you just migrate the page, it late'08 (I'm confusing with time here, thinking '07 is '08 and '08 is '09) » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 15:17, 20 May 2009 (UTC)		:::: OK, ok, you just migrate the page, it late'08 (I'm confusing with time here, thinking '07 is '08 and '08 is '09) » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 15:17, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== Improvement ==
		+	The calc to fire just enough energy to kill an opponent is not trivial and <code>enemyEnergy / 4</code> is not the best option. Anyone could post the right calc here? --[[User:Hvilela\|Henrique Vilela (Hvilela)]] 23:52, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

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	::: Not early'08 I think since I'm here that time and I haven't saw any discussions (either on google groups or robowiki) about it. » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 15:04, 20 May 2009 (UTC)		::: Not early'08 I think since I'm here that time and I haven't saw any discussions (either on google groups or robowiki) about it. » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 15:04, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	:::: OK, ok, you just migrate the page, it late'08 (I'm confusing with time here, thinking '07 is '08 and '08 is '09) » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 15:17, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

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	:: I have no idea if/when Robocode 2 will actually come out, but we have discussed it a lot more recently than that (late '07 / early '08, maybe?). Basically brainstormed some ideas and discussed with [[User:FlemmingLarsen\|Fnl]]. Some ideas included other ways to spend energy, like a secondary fire or a temporary boost of speed. --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 14:42, 20 May 2009 (UTC)		:: I have no idea if/when Robocode 2 will actually come out, but we have discussed it a lot more recently than that (late '07 / early '08, maybe?). Basically brainstormed some ideas and discussed with [[User:FlemmingLarsen\|Fnl]]. Some ideas included other ways to spend energy, like a secondary fire or a temporary boost of speed. --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 14:42, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	::: Not early'08 I think since I'm here that time and I haven't saw any discussions (either on google groups or robowiki) about it. » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 15:04, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

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	: (off-topic) Will Robocode 2 happen? It seem to be abandoned for a really long time (if I remember correctly, since 2004) I'm actually waiting for it, and knowing that current generation bot will not be able to fight effectively (if it still use that speed-strength-damage thing, some VCS-GF robot may get some error from GF 1.3) » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 14:36, 20 May 2009 (UTC)		: (off-topic) Will Robocode 2 happen? It seem to be abandoned for a really long time (if I remember correctly, since 2004) I'm actually waiting for it, and knowing that current generation bot will not be able to fight effectively (if it still use that speed-strength-damage thing, some VCS-GF robot may get some error from GF 1.3) » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 14:36, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	:: I have no idea if/when Robocode 2 will actually come out, but we have discussed it a lot more recently than that (late '07 / early '08, maybe?). Basically brainstormed some ideas and discussed with [[User:FlemmingLarsen\|Fnl]]. Some ideas included other ways to spend energy, like a secondary fire or a temporary boost of speed. --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 14:42, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

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	With Robocode 2, maybe they could be separate, but in Robocode 1, there is only one way to spend energy, and that's by firing bullets. I'd also vote for merging them. --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 14:04, 20 May 2009 (UTC)		With Robocode 2, maybe they could be separate, but in Robocode 1, there is only one way to spend energy, and that's by firing bullets. I'd also vote for merging them. --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 14:04, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	: (off-topic) Will Robocode 2 happen? It seem to be abandoned for a really long time (if I remember correctly, since 2004) I'm actually waiting for it, and knowing that current generation bot will not be able to fight effectively (if it still use that speed-strength-damage thing, some VCS-GF robot may get some error from GF 1.3) » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 14:36, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

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	Agree, only if energy management is just fire power (which it is now), but if anyone can figure out energy management to be used in other part (such as dodging), then I'll disagree. » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 13:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)		Agree, only if energy management is just fire power (which it is now), but if anyone can figure out energy management to be used in other part (such as dodging), then I'll disagree. » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 13:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	With Robocode 2, maybe they could be separate, but in Robocode 1, there is only one way to spend energy, and that's by firing bullets. I'd also vote for merging them. --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 14:04, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

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	To me, it seems this page and [[Selecting Fire Power]] are rather redundant and should be merged in one direction or another. Any thoughts? --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 12:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)		To me, it seems this page and [[Selecting Fire Power]] are rather redundant and should be merged in one direction or another. Any thoughts? --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 12:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	Agree, only if energy management is just fire power (which it is now), but if anyone can figure out energy management to be used in other part (such as dodging), then I'll disagree. » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 13:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

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	You can only call getXXX methods something like 10,000 times per tick. Maybe you are forgetting to call execute() in the while() loop of your run method? If you really need to do 10,000 things wih a value in one tick, just assign it to a variable instead of using getXXX in your loop. -- Voidious		You can only call getXXX methods something like 10,000 times per tick. Maybe you are forgetting to call execute() in the while() loop of your run method? If you really need to do 10,000 things wih a value in one tick, just assign it to a variable instead of using getXXX in your loop. -- Voidious
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		+	== Merge with [[Selecting Fire Power]] ==
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		+	To me, it seems this page and [[Selecting Fire Power]] are rather redundant and should be merged in one direction or another. Any thoughts? --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 12:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)