Talk:Glacier/GlacialHawk - Revision history

Rednaxela: Had high hopes

2009-09-21T13:34:39Z

Had high hopes

Nat: /* Utter failure... */ new section

2009-09-21T13:26:56Z

Utter failure...: new section

Rednaxela: Thanks Voidious

2009-09-20T21:02:40Z

Thanks Voidious

Voidious: strongest melee gun

2009-09-20T20:02:52Z

strongest melee gun

Positive: Cool!

2009-09-11T21:52:26Z

Cool!

Rednaxela: reply to Nat

2009-09-10T16:03:57Z

reply to Nat

Nat: the funny part of the debugging graphics =), and a guess on dimension

2009-09-10T14:19:49Z

the funny part of the debugging graphics =), and a guess on dimension

Rednaxela: reply to Voidious

2009-09-10T14:14:26Z

reply to Voidious

Voidious: comments

2009-09-10T13:44:22Z

comments

Rednaxela: reply to Nat

2009-09-10T13:32:05Z

reply to Nat

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	Why? I don't understand. » [[User:Nat\|<span style="color:#099;">Nat</span>]] [[User talk:Nat\|<span style="color:#0a5;">Pavasant</span>]] » 13:26, 21 September 2009 (UTC)		Why? I don't understand. » [[User:Nat\|<span style="color:#099;">Nat</span>]] [[User talk:Nat\|<span style="color:#0a5;">Pavasant</span>]] » 13:26, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
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		+	I had fairly high hopes for 1.6 and 1.7 but they turned out notably worse than 1.5, that's why :) --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 13:34, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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	: Thanks Voidious :) Well, I have a few things on my todo list for the gun I want to deal with first, so I'll probably release GlacialHawk 1.6 later today, GlacialHawk 1.7 in a day or two, and then the first revision of the full Glacier by the end of the week. Would be faster were it not for having classes, haha. --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 21:02, 20 September 2009 (UTC)		: Thanks Voidious :) Well, I have a few things on my todo list for the gun I want to deal with first, so I'll probably release GlacialHawk 1.6 later today, GlacialHawk 1.7 in a day or two, and then the first revision of the full Glacier by the end of the week. Would be faster were it not for having classes, haha. --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 21:02, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== Utter failure... ==
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		+	Why? I don't understand. » [[User:Nat\|<span style="color:#099;">Nat</span>]] [[User talk:Nat\|<span style="color:#0a5;">Pavasant</span>]] » 13:26, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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	Congrats on having (almost surely) the strongest melee gun out there! Definitely igniting my motivation to get to work on my gun to make a throne run. =) Any updated ETA on the release of Glacier? --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 20:02, 20 September 2009 (UTC)		Congrats on having (almost surely) the strongest melee gun out there! Definitely igniting my motivation to get to work on my gun to make a throne run. =) Any updated ETA on the release of Glacier? --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 20:02, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
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		+	: Thanks Voidious :) Well, I have a few things on my todo list for the gun I want to deal with first, so I'll probably release GlacialHawk 1.6 later today, GlacialHawk 1.7 in a day or two, and then the first revision of the full Glacier by the end of the week. Would be faster were it not for having classes, haha. --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 21:02, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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	: Amazing! I can't wait to see the whole Glacier. :) --[[User:Positive\|Positive]] 21:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)		: Amazing! I can't wait to see the whole Glacier. :) --[[User:Positive\|Positive]] 21:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
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		+	Congrats on having (almost surely) the strongest melee gun out there! Definitely igniting my motivation to get to work on my gun to make a throne run. =) Any updated ETA on the release of Glacier? --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 20:02, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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	:: Nah. I've considered that, but decided that that becomes far too specific to a particularly antigrav implementation and also doesn't robustly handle enemy bots at angles other than the specific tested one. I might give it a try anyway though. It is based on the looking out of the bot from specific angles though :) --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 16:03, 10 September 2009 (UTC)		:: Nah. I've considered that, but decided that that becomes far too specific to a particularly antigrav implementation and also doesn't robustly handle enemy bots at angles other than the specific tested one. I might give it a try anyway though. It is based on the looking out of the bot from specific angles though :) --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 16:03, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
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		+	: Amazing! I can't wait to see the whole Glacier. :) --[[User:Positive\|Positive]] 21:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

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	: Let me guess, the gravity/risk value for chosen angles from enemy robot? » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 14:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)		: Let me guess, the gravity/risk value for chosen angles from enemy robot? » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 14:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
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		+	:: Nah. I've considered that, but decided that that becomes far too specific to a particularly antigrav implementation and also doesn't robustly handle enemy bots at angles other than the specific tested one. I might give it a try anyway though. It is based on the looking out of the bot from specific angles though :) --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 16:03, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

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 Thanks. It's indeed not bad, and might be able surpass Shadow's gun with some good bulletpower tuning alone I suspect. What's so funny about the debugging graphics? It's just a radial graph of how attractive angles look for targeting :). GlacialHawk isn't open source right now, as I don't want to give away my top-secret melee-targeting-dimensions just yet, but it'll probably be open source when I'm ready to make the full release of Glacier. --[[User:Rednaxela|Rednaxela]] 13:32, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 Really nice work! I've had a bunch of ideas for melee-specific targeting attributes, as well, but only implemented (and usually reverted) a handful of them. I'll be curious to find out some day how yours compare. Also, my ego demands I point out that [[Diamond/DiamondHawk|DiamondHawk]] 1.0 was still targeting specific opponents (pre-[[Shadow/Melee Gun]]), and I've gained at least another 1% APS in [[Diamond]] via gun improvements since then. =) When can we expect [[Glacier]]? --[[User:Voidious|Voidious]] 13:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 I'll give one hint about my melee-specific targeting attributes for now: It's designed specifically for making PIF accurate against the common anti-grav/min-risk bots. [[Glacier]] can be expected... after I do a few iterations of GlacialHawk to tweak the bulletpower and other issues on my mind, and then have time experiment with the movement just a little more. My estimate is... 1 to 3 weeks. :) --[[User:Rednaxela|Rednaxela]] 14:14, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

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	Really nice work! I've had a bunch of ideas for melee-specific targeting attributes, as well, but only implemented (and usually reverted) a handful of them. I'll be curious to find out some day how yours compare. Also, my ego demands I point out that [[Diamond/DiamondHawk\|DiamondHawk]] 1.0 was still targeting specific opponents (pre-[[Shadow/Melee Gun]]), and I've gained at least another 1% APS in [[Diamond]] via gun improvements since then. =) When can we expect [[Glacier]]? --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 13:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)		Really nice work! I've had a bunch of ideas for melee-specific targeting attributes, as well, but only implemented (and usually reverted) a handful of them. I'll be curious to find out some day how yours compare. Also, my ego demands I point out that [[Diamond/DiamondHawk\|DiamondHawk]] 1.0 was still targeting specific opponents (pre-[[Shadow/Melee Gun]]), and I've gained at least another 1% APS in [[Diamond]] via gun improvements since then. =) When can we expect [[Glacier]]? --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 13:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
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		+	I'll give one hint about my melee-specific targeting attributes for now: It's designed specifically for making PIF accurate against the common anti-grav/min-risk bots. [[Glacier]] can be expected... after I do a few iterations of GlacialHawk to tweak the bulletpower and other issues on my mind, and then have time experiment with the movement just a little more. My estimate is... 1 to 3 weeks. :) --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 14:14, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

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	Thanks. It's indeed not bad, and might be able surpass Shadow's gun with some good bulletpower tuning alone I suspect. What's so funny about the debugging graphics? It's just a radial graph of how attractive angles look for targeting :). GlacialHawk isn't open source right now, as I don't want to give away my top-secret melee-targeting-dimensions just yet, but it'll probably be open source when I'm ready to make the full release of Glacier. --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 13:32, 10 September 2009 (UTC)		Thanks. It's indeed not bad, and might be able surpass Shadow's gun with some good bulletpower tuning alone I suspect. What's so funny about the debugging graphics? It's just a radial graph of how attractive angles look for targeting :). GlacialHawk isn't open source right now, as I don't want to give away my top-secret melee-targeting-dimensions just yet, but it'll probably be open source when I'm ready to make the full release of Glacier. --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 13:32, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
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		+	Really nice work! I've had a bunch of ideas for melee-specific targeting attributes, as well, but only implemented (and usually reverted) a handful of them. I'll be curious to find out some day how yours compare. Also, my ego demands I point out that [[Diamond/DiamondHawk\|DiamondHawk]] 1.0 was still targeting specific opponents (pre-[[Shadow/Melee Gun]]), and I've gained at least another 1% APS in [[Diamond]] via gun improvements since then. =) When can we expect [[Glacier]]? --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 13:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

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	Congrats! Isn't bad for first run, is it? You make me laugh out loud when I saw your gun debugging graphics. Not open sourced this time, eh? » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 13:26, 10 September 2009 (UTC)		Congrats! Isn't bad for first run, is it? You make me laugh out loud when I saw your gun debugging graphics. Not open sourced this time, eh? » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 13:26, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
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		+	Thanks. It's indeed not bad, and might be able surpass Shadow's gun with some good bulletpower tuning alone I suspect. What's so funny about the debugging graphics? It's just a radial graph of how attractive angles look for targeting :). GlacialHawk isn't open source right now, as I don't want to give away my top-secret melee-targeting-dimensions just yet, but it'll probably be open source when I'm ready to make the full release of Glacier. --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 13:32, 10 September 2009 (UTC)