Talk:Robocode - Revision history

Nat: /* 10th Birthday */ about Robocode 2.0

2011-01-08T06:59:42Z

10th Birthday: about Robocode 2.0

Miked0801: /* 10th Birthday */

2011-01-07T23:46:51Z

10th Birthday

Alcatraz: /* 10th Birthday */

2011-01-07T13:41:01Z

10th Birthday

Nat: /* 10th Birthday */ robocode change logs agree with wikipedia

2011-01-07T11:31:15Z

10th Birthday: robocode change logs agree with wikipedia

Voidious: /* 10th Birthday */ date, archive.org

2011-01-07T01:09:22Z

10th Birthday: date, archive.org

ABC: /* 10th Birthday */ I'm I really that young?

2011-01-07T00:38:56Z

10th Birthday: I'm I really that young?

Voidious: /* 10th Birthday */ Robocode turns 10 soon!

2011-01-06T19:52:08Z

10th Birthday: Robocode turns 10 soon!

RednaxelaBot: Using .

2010-07-01T08:35:30Z

Using <syntaxhighlight>.

FlemmingLarsen: /* Jikes vs. ECJ */ You can add and setup Jikes manually in Robocode beside ECJ, if you wish

2010-06-29T21:59:52Z

Jikes vs. ECJ: You can add and setup Jikes manually in Robocode beside ECJ, if you wish

Nat at 12:45, 29 June 2010

2010-06-29T12:45:00Z

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	Man, that makes me feel old. P-Robots had configurable robots with shields, fuel, speed, armor, mines, and even a cloak. It also had shots that exploded - you told it how far the missiles shot and detonated. It was a neat game --[[User:Miked0801\|Miked0801]] 23:46, 7 January 2011 (UTC)		Man, that makes me feel old. P-Robots had configurable robots with shields, fuel, speed, armor, mines, and even a cloak. It also had shots that exploded - you told it how far the missiles shot and detonated. It was a neat game --[[User:Miked0801\|Miked0801]] 23:46, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
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		+	Robocode 2.0 "Custom Battlefield" is under development. IIRC currently obstacle is supported as is "Capture-the-flag" mode. But current version has too much security flows. I believe Josh (the main developer of this [http://robocode.googlecode.com/svn/robocode/branches/custom-battlefields-workspace/ project]) said he would be rewriting this part. Note that neither of it is easy, because it affects core robocode api, and we must ensure backward compatibility. --[[User:Nat\|<span style="color:#099;">Nat</span>]] [[User talk:Nat\|<span style="color:#0a5;">Pavasant</span>]] 06:59, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

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	I think it would be fun to have a competition with a prize like IBM did back in the day. Maybe try to promote it a little bit. I also think it would be fun to revisit, what was it, RoboCode 2.0? I liked the idea of introducing some new features/strategy but I think the problem with that was that there were too many and not a lot of time was spent balancing them. How about RoboCode with mines or shields or oil slicks or something? --[[User:Alcatraz\|Alcatraz]] 13:41, 7 January 2011 (UTC)		I think it would be fun to have a competition with a prize like IBM did back in the day. Maybe try to promote it a little bit. I also think it would be fun to revisit, what was it, RoboCode 2.0? I liked the idea of introducing some new features/strategy but I think the problem with that was that there were too many and not a lot of time was spent balancing them. How about RoboCode with mines or shields or oil slicks or something? --[[User:Alcatraz\|Alcatraz]] 13:41, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
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		+	Man, that makes me feel old. P-Robots had configurable robots with shields, fuel, speed, armor, mines, and even a cloak. It also had shots that exploded - you told it how far the missiles shot and detonated. It was a neat game --[[User:Miked0801\|Miked0801]] 23:46, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

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	Have anyone think of a celebration? For all I know, it couldn't be a party unless someone would sponsor tickets ;). I can think of a special competition with special rules (Robot only; Perceptual Robot only etc.), but I much doubt number of current active robocoder... --[[User:Nat\|<span style="color:#099;">Nat</span>]] [[User talk:Nat\|<span style="color:#0a5;">Pavasant</span>]] 11:31, 7 January 2011 (UTC)		Have anyone think of a celebration? For all I know, it couldn't be a party unless someone would sponsor tickets ;). I can think of a special competition with special rules (Robot only; Perceptual Robot only etc.), but I much doubt number of current active robocoder... --[[User:Nat\|<span style="color:#099;">Nat</span>]] [[User talk:Nat\|<span style="color:#0a5;">Pavasant</span>]] 11:31, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
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		+	I think it would be fun to have a competition with a prize like IBM did back in the day. Maybe try to promote it a little bit. I also think it would be fun to revisit, what was it, RoboCode 2.0? I liked the idea of introducing some new features/strategy but I think the problem with that was that there were too many and not a lot of time was spent balancing them. How about RoboCode with mines or shields or oil slicks or something? --[[User:Alcatraz\|Alcatraz]] 13:41, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

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	: Btw, I found an archive of The Bot Exchange from August 19, 2001: [http://web.archive.org/web/20010819183801/http://home.covad.net/~gchomuk/RoboCode/]. It mentions the July 27, 2001 date, so I'm inclined to go with that unless someone has evidence otherwise. --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 01:09, 7 January 2011 (UTC)		: Btw, I found an archive of The Bot Exchange from August 19, 2001: [http://web.archive.org/web/20010819183801/http://home.covad.net/~gchomuk/RoboCode/]. It mentions the July 27, 2001 date, so I'm inclined to go with that unless someone has evidence otherwise. --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 01:09, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
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		+	: Initial Robocode Development Log ([http://robocode.googlecode.com/svn/robocode/trunk/versions.txt here] and scroll all the way down) agrees with Wikipedia. --[[User:Nat\|<span style="color:#099;">Nat</span>]] [[User talk:Nat\|<span style="color:#0a5;">Pavasant</span>]] 11:31, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

	Wow, 10 years? Feels more like.. 10 years! :) Just checked my email DB, the oldest reference to robocode is an IBM newsletter from december 2001, that was probably where I first read about it. --[[User:ABC\|ABC]]		Wow, 10 years? Feels more like.. 10 years! :) Just checked my email DB, the oldest reference to robocode is an IBM newsletter from december 2001, that was probably where I first read about it. --[[User:ABC\|ABC]]
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		+	Have anyone think of a celebration? For all I know, it couldn't be a party unless someone would sponsor tickets ;). I can think of a special competition with special rules (Robot only; Perceptual Robot only etc.), but I much doubt number of current active robocoder... --[[User:Nat\|<span style="color:#099;">Nat</span>]] [[User talk:Nat\|<span style="color:#0a5;">Pavasant</span>]] 11:31, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

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	--[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 19:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)		--[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 19:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
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		+	: Btw, I found an archive of The Bot Exchange from August 19, 2001: [http://web.archive.org/web/20010819183801/http://home.covad.net/~gchomuk/RoboCode/]. It mentions the July 27, 2001 date, so I'm inclined to go with that unless someone has evidence otherwise. --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 01:09, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

	Wow, 10 years? Feels more like.. 10 years! :) Just checked my email DB, the oldest reference to robocode is an IBM newsletter from december 2001, that was probably where I first read about it. --[[User:ABC\|ABC]]		Wow, 10 years? Feels more like.. 10 years! :) Just checked my email DB, the oldest reference to robocode is an IBM newsletter from december 2001, that was probably where I first read about it. --[[User:ABC\|ABC]]

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	--[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 19:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)		--[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 19:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
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		+	Wow, 10 years? Feels more like.. 10 years! :) Just checked my email DB, the oldest reference to robocode is an IBM newsletter from december 2001, that was probably where I first read about it. --[[User:ABC\|ABC]]

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	I think it would be much different, and using bullets to shield would be much more common. Note though, even with current line-based collisions, one author has had a great deal of success with it via an interesting technique ([[BulletCatcher]]), not sure if you've seen that one or not. --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 01:52, 29 June 2010 (UTC)		I think it would be much different, and using bullets to shield would be much more common. Note though, even with current line-based collisions, one author has had a great deal of success with it via an interesting technique ([[BulletCatcher]]), not sure if you've seen that one or not. --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 01:52, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== 10th Birthday ==
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		+	Hey, if Wikipedia is to be trusted, Robocode was first released in February 2001. So next month should be the 10th anniversary! But [[oldwiki:History]] says July. Anyone know for sure? ([http://web.archive.org web.archive.org] can probably help.)
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		+	We should do something special! Or thing'''s''', even. Ideas? Make some "Happy Birthday" graphical bots? A concerted effort to clean up the wiki? Some revamped challenges? We all go visit [[User:FlemmingLarsen\|Fnl]] or [[User:PEZ\|PEZ]] and bring our favorite forms of alcohol (or juice, for the younglings)?
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		+	Maybe I'll run a single-elimination tournament with top rumble bots and post results. Like top 64 or 128, seeded by rank, best of 7... I like the sound of that. =)
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		+	--[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 19:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

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 Having written the one in roboflight, I now find it interesting that bullets intersect each other as lines in Robocode, meaning their collision chance even when fired directly at each other, is a bit low. Of course firing bullets to intercept bullets is also difficult. I wonder what the game would of been like if the bullet interception routine looked like this.
-<pre>
+<syntaxhighlight>
 	/**
 	 * Moving Circle test, reduced dimensionality version of the bullet/bullet intersection code in Roboflight.
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 		return c <= rSumSqr;
+	}
-</pre>
+</syntaxhighlight>
 &#8212; <span style="font-family: monospace">[[User:Chase-san|Chase]]-[[User_talk:Chase-san|san]]</span> 00:57, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 I think it would be much different, and using bullets to shield would be much more common. Note though, even with current line-based collisions, one author has had a great deal of success with it via an interesting technique ([[BulletCatcher]]), not sure if you've seen that one or not. --[[User:Rednaxela|Rednaxela]] 01:52, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

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	I am pretty sure that some tricks to reduce codesize only works for Jikes. Many of my nanobots compile on Jikes and Ejc have the same codesize. --[[User:Nat\|<span style="color:#099;">Nat</span>]] [[User talk:Nat\|<span style="color:#0a5;">Pavasant</span>]] 12:45, 29 June 2010 (UTC)		I am pretty sure that some tricks to reduce codesize only works for Jikes. Many of my nanobots compile on Jikes and Ejc have the same codesize. --[[User:Nat\|<span style="color:#099;">Nat</span>]] [[User talk:Nat\|<span style="color:#0a5;">Pavasant</span>]] 12:45, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
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		+	I have waited as long as I could with replacing the Jikes compiler - especially due to Jikes ability to produce small code size. But unfortunately lots of users has made complaints in several years about Jikes giving strange compiling errors (I got one or two every week), and these users don't care about the code size. Hence, I suggest you still use Jikes for reducing the codesize. You can always set this up Jikes manually in Robocode, if you wish to - in fact any compiler you like. But I will only include one compiler into Robocode, and it has to be the best free "stand-alone" compiler, which I believe is currently ECJ. ECJ also provides much better compiler errors. :-) --[[User:FlemmingLarsen\|Fnl]] 21:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

	== Bullet/Bullet intersection ==		== Bullet/Bullet intersection ==

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	Personally what I think would be most interesting would be seeing exactly where the different sizes of each come from, using a java disassembler. Anyway, I'm pretty sure one can only use jikes when compiling against an old robocode version though. --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 01:40, 29 June 2010 (UTC)		Personally what I think would be most interesting would be seeing exactly where the different sizes of each come from, using a java disassembler. Anyway, I'm pretty sure one can only use jikes when compiling against an old robocode version though. --[[User:Rednaxela\|Rednaxela]] 01:40, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
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		+	I am pretty sure that some tricks to reduce codesize only works for Jikes. Many of my nanobots compile on Jikes and Ejc have the same codesize. --[[User:Nat\|<span style="color:#099;">Nat</span>]] [[User talk:Nat\|<span style="color:#0a5;">Pavasant</span>]] 12:45, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

	== Bullet/Bullet intersection ==		== Bullet/Bullet intersection ==