Talk:Robocode/Mac OS X - Revision history

Darkcanuck: .command is neat

2009-05-12T01:01:01Z

.command is neat

BenHorner: .command files on Mac

2009-05-11T23:30:53Z

.command files on Mac

Darkcanuck: use robocode.sh, not jar file

2009-05-11T16:30:32Z

use robocode.sh, not jar file

Nat: 1.7.1.1 is faster for sure

2009-05-11T15:20:39Z

1.7.1.1 is faster for sure

Voidious: some feedback

2009-05-11T14:33:15Z

some feedback

Nat: heap size

2009-05-11T01:39:27Z

heap size

Nat: Talk:Robocode on Mac OS X moved to Talk:Robocode/Mac OS X: anything related to the Robocode application should be subpages of Robocode

2009-05-11T01:25:27Z

Talk:Robocode on Mac OS X moved to Talk:Robocode/Mac OS X: anything related to the Robocode application should be subpages of Robocode

BenHorner: Quick change

2009-05-11T00:45:53Z

Quick change

BenHorner: Another option...

2009-05-11T00:00:17Z

Another option...

New page

The .bat files and .sh files are meant to start it up for you... You can get it to work without moving anything around in the lib directory, or anywhere else, here's what I did:

Just rename the robocode.sh file to robocode.command. Then you can double click robocode.command, and it will run robocode for you. Let me know if that doesn't work... --[[User:BenHorner|BenHorner]] 00:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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 : I tried it before I posted it, it worked for me (the ".command" rename thing).  It opened a terminal and started robocode also.  I just didn't know if it would work for sure across systems. --[[User:BenHorner|BenHorner]] 23:30, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 : Voidious, I'm not a Mac user, but I can say the 1.7.1 work a LOT faster, at least in Windows. I was once run a roborumble client using 1.7.1.2alpha (checked out from SVN) with UPLOAD=NOT. That time I run only nanobot battles and I got a battle per second! And the best thing is you don't need to wait for Initializing version check date =) I don't think you need 1.7.1.1, version 1.7 with new picocontainer is faster than old one. The only reason to grab the 1.7.1 is for new repository, and 1.7.1.1 is for a brunch of bugfixed. &raquo; <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat|Nat]] | [[User_talk:Nat|Talk]]</span> &raquo; 15:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 I'd vote to mostly redo this page.  The installer has worked fine under Tiger & Leopard for every version I've tried since 1.5.4 (and many before that).  The instructions are incorrect since you need to run robocode.sh, '''not''' the robocode.jar file.  By running the shell file, the correct paths are set so all files can be found.  Speed-wise, the post 1.6 versions may be faster when minimized or run as a rumble client since the graphics code is now separate from the game engine.  Are there any other Mac users who've had trouble installing or running the robocode.sh file?  --[[User:Darkcanuck|Darkcanuck]] 16:30, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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 : Voidious, I'm not a Mac user, but I can say the 1.7.1 work a LOT faster, at least in Windows. I was once run a roborumble client using 1.7.1.2alpha (checked out from SVN) with UPLOAD=NOT. That time I run only nanobot battles and I got a battle per second! And the best thing is you don't need to wait for Initializing version check date =) I don't think you need 1.7.1.1, version 1.7 with new picocontainer is faster than old one. The only reason to grab the 1.7.1 is for new repository, and 1.7.1.1 is for a brunch of bugfixed. &raquo; <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat|Nat]] | [[User_talk:Nat|Talk]]</span> &raquo; 15:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 I'd vote to mostly redo this page.  The installer has worked fine under Tiger & Leopard for every version I've tried since 1.5.4 (and many before that).  The instructions are incorrect since you need to run robocode.sh, '''not''' the robocode.jar file.  By running the shell file, the correct paths are set so all files can be found.  Speed-wise, the post 1.6 versions may be faster when minimized or run as a rumble client since the graphics code is now separate from the game engine.  Are there any other Mac users who've had trouble installing or running the robocode.sh file?  --[[User:Darkcanuck|Darkcanuck]] 16:30, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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	: Voidious, I'm not a Mac user, but I can say the 1.7.1 work a LOT faster, at least in Windows. I was once run a roborumble client using 1.7.1.2alpha (checked out from SVN) with UPLOAD=NOT. That time I run only nanobot battles and I got a battle per second! And the best thing is you don't need to wait for Initializing version check date =) I don't think you need 1.7.1.1, version 1.7 with new picocontainer is faster than old one. The only reason to grab the 1.7.1 is for new repository, and 1.7.1.1 is for a brunch of bugfixed. » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 15:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)		: Voidious, I'm not a Mac user, but I can say the 1.7.1 work a LOT faster, at least in Windows. I was once run a roborumble client using 1.7.1.2alpha (checked out from SVN) with UPLOAD=NOT. That time I run only nanobot battles and I got a battle per second! And the best thing is you don't need to wait for Initializing version check date =) I don't think you need 1.7.1.1, version 1.7 with new picocontainer is faster than old one. The only reason to grab the 1.7.1 is for new repository, and 1.7.1.1 is for a brunch of bugfixed. » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 15:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	I'd vote to mostly redo this page. The installer has worked fine under Tiger & Leopard for every version I've tried since 1.5.4 (and many before that). The instructions are incorrect since you need to run robocode.sh, '''not''' the robocode.jar file. By running the shell file, the correct paths are set so all files can be found. Speed-wise, the post 1.6 versions may be faster when minimized or run as a rumble client since the graphics code is now separate from the game engine. Are there any other Mac users who've had trouble installing or running the robocode.sh file? --[[User:Darkcanuck\|Darkcanuck]] 16:30, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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		+	: Voidious, I'm not a Mac user, but I can say the 1.7.1 work a LOT faster, at least in Windows. I was once run a roborumble client using 1.7.1.2alpha (checked out from SVN) with UPLOAD=NOT. That time I run only nanobot battles and I got a battle per second! And the best thing is you don't need to wait for Initializing version check date =) I don't think you need 1.7.1.1, version 1.7 with new picocontainer is faster than old one. The only reason to grab the 1.7.1 is for new repository, and 1.7.1.1 is for a brunch of bugfixed. » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 15:20, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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	If you run from Robocode.jar directly, let me warn you. Tde default java heap size is '''128MB''', which is '''too''' low. The default robocode bat/sh file set it to '''512MB'''. The default heap size will surely give you OutOfMemoryError if you run a melee battle with Shadow,Tron,Aleph,SandboxDT,Logic,Phoenix,... They may fail even if you run just Shadow vs. SandboxDT, but I'm not sure. » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 01:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)		If you run from Robocode.jar directly, let me warn you. Tde default java heap size is '''128MB''', which is '''too''' low. The default robocode bat/sh file set it to '''512MB'''. The default heap size will surely give you OutOfMemoryError if you run a melee battle with Shadow,Tron,Aleph,SandboxDT,Logic,Phoenix,... They may fail even if you run just Shadow vs. SandboxDT, but I'm not sure. » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 01:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	I think it's good to have a page for this, since Apple's support for Java tends to suck, but I do think there are some inaccuracies in what's posted here now.
		+	* Saying the installer "doesn't work" isn't quite right. Noting that it doesn't install a traditional Mac .app into the "Applications" folder might be good. It doesn't really matter where you install it, either, so I don't think we need that part. (Personally, I do install to my home dir, like ~/robocode_1.7.1.1.)
		+	* You don't need to copy things around, you can just run robocode.sh from the Terminal in the installed directory. I'm not sure about the ".command" bit, but it would be cool if that worked, too. Clearly, this isn't obvious, so it would be good to put that info here. =)
		+	* The shell on OS X actually ''isn't'' much different than other Unix systems...
		+	* I'm really not sure about 1.7.1.1 running any faster than previous versions. It seems unlikely and I haven't noticed, but I've just recently come back to active Robocoding. There are some other Mac Robocoders that could probably comment on that.
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		+	Off the top of my head, mentioning [http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/ SoyLatte Java] and the details (which I don't know) of the Java 6 beta on OS X seem worth posting here. Not that you need Java 6 for Robocode, but you might for some bots.
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		+	--[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 14:33, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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	The .bat files and .sh files are meant to start it up for you... I'm pretty sure you can get it to work without moving anything around. Try renaming the robocode.sh file to robocode.command. ".command" files are files that OS X recognizes as a double-clickable script. Then you can double click robocode.command, and it will run robocode for you. Let me know if that doesn't work... --[[User:BenHorner\|BenHorner]] 00:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)		The .bat files and .sh files are meant to start it up for you... I'm pretty sure you can get it to work without moving anything around. Try renaming the robocode.sh file to robocode.command. ".command" files are files that OS X recognizes as a double-clickable script. Then you can double click robocode.command, and it will run robocode for you. Let me know if that doesn't work... --[[User:BenHorner\|BenHorner]] 00:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	If you run from Robocode.jar directly, let me warn you. Tde default java heap size is '''128MB''', which is '''too''' low. The default robocode bat/sh file set it to '''512MB'''. The default heap size will surely give you OutOfMemoryError if you run a melee battle with Shadow,Tron,Aleph,SandboxDT,Logic,Phoenix,... They may fail even if you run just Shadow vs. SandboxDT, but I'm not sure. » <span style="font-size:0.9em;color:darkgreen;">[[User:Nat\|Nat]] \| [[User_talk:Nat\|Talk]]</span> » 01:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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−	The .bat files and .sh files are meant to start it up for you... ~~You~~ can get it to work without moving anything around ~~in the lib directory, or anywhere else, here's what I did:~~	+	The .bat files and .sh files are meant to start it up for you... I'm pretty sure you can get it to work without moving anything around. Try renaming the robocode.sh file to robocode.command. ".command" files are files that OS X recognizes as a double-clickable script. Then you can double click robocode.command, and it will run robocode for you. Let me know if that doesn't work... --[[User:BenHorner\|BenHorner]] 00:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
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−	~~Just rename~~ the robocode.sh file to robocode.command. Then you can double click robocode.command, and it will run robocode for you. Let me know if that doesn't work... --[[User:BenHorner\|BenHorner]] 00:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)