Talk:YersiniaPestis - Revision history

Zyx: /* 2.1 */ grammar mistake

2009-07-25T07:22:55Z

2.1: grammar mistake

Zyx: /* 2.1 */ Inspired by Voidious

2009-07-25T07:22:25Z

2.1: Inspired by Voidious

Zyx: /* 2.0 */ Murphy's fault

2009-07-23T21:10:19Z

2.0: Murphy's fault

GrubbmGait: sidenote on rewrite

2009-07-23T20:55:03Z

sidenote on rewrite

Zyx: /* 2.0 */ not sure

2009-07-23T17:21:44Z

2.0: not sure

Voidious: /* 2.0 */ oh, a rewrite...

2009-07-23T04:14:37Z

2.0: oh, a rewrite...

Zyx: /* 2.0 */ not sure

2009-07-23T03:52:10Z

2.0: not sure

Voidious: /* 2.0 */ what happened?

2009-07-22T15:01:45Z

2.0: what happened?

Robobot: Robobot 0.1 : correcting user page links

2009-05-22T07:47:59Z

Robobot 0.1 : correcting user page links

Zyx: /* Inverse Weighting */

2009-05-19T21:31:26Z

Inverse Weighting

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 :: Heehehhe, well I blame [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law Murphy]. --[[User:Zyx|zyx]] 21:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 = 2.1 =
-Inspired by [[Voidious]]' words I decided to do some minor tweaks to the new code before getting busy and realized that different preferred distance makes a huge difference, in some tests at least, let's see how v2.1 it holds in the rumble. --[[User:Zyx|zyx]] 07:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
+Inspired by [[Voidious]]' words I decided to do some minor tweaks to the new code before getting busy and realized that different preferred distance makes a huge difference, in some tests at least, let's see how v2.1 holds in the rumble. --[[User:Zyx|zyx]] 07:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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	: Just on a sidenote: Why is it that the best ideas end up in crappy code, and the bad ideas fit in smoothly without problems ;p --[[User:GrubbmGait\|GrubbmGait]] 20:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)		: Just on a sidenote: Why is it that the best ideas end up in crappy code, and the bad ideas fit in smoothly without problems ;p --[[User:GrubbmGait\|GrubbmGait]] 20:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
	:: Heehehhe, well I blame [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law Murphy]. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 21:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)		:: Heehehhe, well I blame [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law Murphy]. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 21:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
		+	= 2.1 =
		+	Inspired by [[Voidious]]' words I decided to do some minor tweaks to the new code before getting busy and realized that different preferred distance makes a huge difference, in some tests at least, let's see how v2.1 it holds in the rumble. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 07:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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	: Well right now I won't have much time to work on Robocode, but I think the first thing I will try to do when I can is to use the new surfing and the old gun, but still unsure if I'm going to fit the new surf in the old code, or the old gun in the new code. Thanks for the advice. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 17:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)		: Well right now I won't have much time to work on Robocode, but I think the first thing I will try to do when I can is to use the new surfing and the old gun, but still unsure if I'm going to fit the new surf in the old code, or the old gun in the new code. Thanks for the advice. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 17:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
	: Just on a sidenote: Why is it that the best ideas end up in crappy code, and the bad ideas fit in smoothly without problems ;p --[[User:GrubbmGait\|GrubbmGait]] 20:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)		: Just on a sidenote: Why is it that the best ideas end up in crappy code, and the bad ideas fit in smoothly without problems ;p --[[User:GrubbmGait\|GrubbmGait]] 20:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
		+	:: Heehehhe, well I blame [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law Murphy]. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 21:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

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	: Well, good luck whichever way you go. I must say that I have felt much happier and more proud of [[Dookious]] ever since his full rewrite. And (after a lot of debugging) I even ended up gaining a few points with it. Come to think of it, I discovered a big performance enhancing surfing bug in the old code during that rewrite! --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 04:14, 23 July 2009 (UTC)		: Well, good luck whichever way you go. I must say that I have felt much happier and more proud of [[Dookious]] ever since his full rewrite. And (after a lot of debugging) I even ended up gaining a few points with it. Come to think of it, I discovered a big performance enhancing surfing bug in the old code during that rewrite! --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 04:14, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
	: Well right now I won't have much time to work on Robocode, but I think the first thing I will try to do when I can is to use the new surfing and the old gun, but still unsure if I'm going to fit the new surf in the old code, or the old gun in the new code. Thanks for the advice. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 17:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)		: Well right now I won't have much time to work on Robocode, but I think the first thing I will try to do when I can is to use the new surfing and the old gun, but still unsure if I'm going to fit the new surf in the old code, or the old gun in the new code. Thanks for the advice. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 17:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
		+	: Just on a sidenote: Why is it that the best ideas end up in crappy code, and the bad ideas fit in smoothly without problems ;p --[[User:GrubbmGait\|GrubbmGait]] 20:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

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	: Oh, wow! In that case, some rating dip in the first release is not too surprising. You're really thinking of ditching the rewrite? In the long run, I think more precise is always good. =) Those performance enhancing bugs will still stand in the way of future gains, even if they help now.		: Oh, wow! In that case, some rating dip in the first release is not too surprising. You're really thinking of ditching the rewrite? In the long run, I think more precise is always good. =) Those performance enhancing bugs will still stand in the way of future gains, even if they help now.
	: Well, good luck whichever way you go. I must say that I have felt much happier and more proud of [[Dookious]] ever since his full rewrite. And (after a lot of debugging) I even ended up gaining a few points with it. Come to think of it, I discovered a big performance enhancing surfing bug in the old code during that rewrite! --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 04:14, 23 July 2009 (UTC)		: Well, good luck whichever way you go. I must say that I have felt much happier and more proud of [[Dookious]] ever since his full rewrite. And (after a lot of debugging) I even ended up gaining a few points with it. Come to think of it, I discovered a big performance enhancing surfing bug in the old code during that rewrite! --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 04:14, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
		+	: Well right now I won't have much time to work on Robocode, but I think the first thing I will try to do when I can is to use the new surfing and the old gun, but still unsure if I'm going to fit the new surf in the old code, or the old gun in the new code. Thanks for the advice. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 17:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

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	Argh, what happened? I was excited and scared when I saw YersiniaPestis 2.0 hit the rumble, but it seems you have a problem somewhere. =( --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 15:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)		Argh, what happened? I was excited and scared when I saw YersiniaPestis 2.0 hit the rumble, but it seems you have a problem somewhere. =( --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 15:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
	: Yeah, I'm a little dissappointed too, version 2.0 out scored 1.3.7 in every test, only against [[DrussGT]] it had a worse score but I guessed that wasn't important. It was a rewrite from scratch to make it faster, I think I'll start with smaller tweaks to the old version, the old one probably has some performance enhancing bug because the new version had a lot of debugging and I believe is much more precise, but maybe that's not always good. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 03:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)		: Yeah, I'm a little dissappointed too, version 2.0 out scored 1.3.7 in every test, only against [[DrussGT]] it had a worse score but I guessed that wasn't important. It was a rewrite from scratch to make it faster, I think I'll start with smaller tweaks to the old version, the old one probably has some performance enhancing bug because the new version had a lot of debugging and I believe is much more precise, but maybe that's not always good. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 03:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
		+	: Oh, wow! In that case, some rating dip in the first release is not too surprising. You're really thinking of ditching the rewrite? In the long run, I think more precise is always good. =) Those performance enhancing bugs will still stand in the way of future gains, even if they help now.
		+	: Well, good luck whichever way you go. I must say that I have felt much happier and more proud of [[Dookious]] ever since his full rewrite. And (after a lot of debugging) I even ended up gaining a few points with it. Come to think of it, I discovered a big performance enhancing surfing bug in the old code during that rewrite! --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 04:14, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

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	Argh, what happened? I was excited and scared when I saw YersiniaPestis 2.0 hit the rumble, but it seems you have a problem somewhere. =( --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 15:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)		Argh, what happened? I was excited and scared when I saw YersiniaPestis 2.0 hit the rumble, but it seems you have a problem somewhere. =( --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 15:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
		+	: Yeah, I'm a little dissappointed too, version 2.0 out scored 1.3.7 in every test, only against [[DrussGT]] it had a worse score but I guessed that wasn't important. It was a rewrite from scratch to make it faster, I think I'll start with smaller tweaks to the old version, the old one probably has some performance enhancing bug because the new version had a lot of debugging and I believe is much more precise, but maybe that's not always good. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 03:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

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	: I was already adding 1e-9, although maybe being on the exact same scan is almost as probable as being 1e-9 away from it considering some attributes are continuous(lateral/advance velocity), maybe a max(1e-9, distance) would be wiser, but thanks anyway. I'm almost positive is more related to skip turns, 1.3.7 was already on the edge of skipping turns every now and skipping forever. I think it will need some serious refactoring to make it faster, but I've been too busy lately. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 21:25, 19 May 2009 (UTC)		: I was already adding 1e-9, although maybe being on the exact same scan is almost as probable as being 1e-9 away from it considering some attributes are continuous(lateral/advance velocity), maybe a max(1e-9, distance) would be wiser, but thanks anyway. I'm almost positive is more related to skip turns, 1.3.7 was already on the edge of skipping turns every now and skipping forever. I think it will need some serious refactoring to make it faster, but I've been too busy lately. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 21:25, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
	: Actually not, if the bot is stopped being on the same scan is pretty easy since only the discrete attributes are non-zero. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 21:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)		: Actually not, if the bot is stopped being on the same scan is pretty easy since only the discrete attributes are non-zero. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 21:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== 2.0 ==
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		+	Argh, what happened? I was excited and scared when I saw YersiniaPestis 2.0 hit the rumble, but it seems you have a problem somewhere. =( --[[User:Voidious\|Voidious]] 15:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

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 :* Er, btw I see your signature was a little odd there. You may already know this, but just to double check, are you aware that you can just type <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> to automatically get a nicely formatted/dated signature? --[[User:Rednaxela|Rednaxela]] 08:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 :* Hehehe, yes you already showed me :-). This happened to me before, but this time the edit was so small I didn't preview it, it's an extra ~. Thanks --[[User:Zyx|zyx]] 08:51, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
-:* Do you mean 5 ~? like <nowiki>--~~~~~</nowiki>? I recently think that you just blankout your Nickname. (I sign this post with 5 ~) [[Nat]] --10:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
+:* Do you mean 5 ~? like <nowiki>--~~~~~</nowiki>? I recently think that you just blankout your Nickname. (I sign this post with 5 ~) [[User:Nat|Nat]] --10:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 :* For me 5~ prints --> ''--15:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)'', and 4~ prints --> ''--[[User:Zyx|zyx]] 15:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)''
 :* Also, interestingly, 3~ prints ''--[[User:Rednaxela|Rednaxela]]''. 2 and 6 don't do anything though. --[[User:Rednaxela|Rednaxela]] 16:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
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 Wow, YersiniaPestis is the undefeated PL champ now? Congrats, man, that is awesome and super impressive. --[[User:Voidious|Voidious]] 15:25, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
-: Thanks man, but I fear it won't hold out for too long, many people has been active in their robocoding specially [[Skilgannon]], and [[DrussGT | DrussGT 1.3.7]] already beat it(they only have one battle, but still). And I'm currently too busy to work on the bots. But honestly it made so happy when I was able to beat [[Dookious]], I really like that bot. --[[User:Zyx|zyx]] 01:15, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
+: Thanks man, but I fear it won't hold out for too long, many people has been active in their robocoding specially [[User:Skilgannon|Skilgannon]], and [[DrussGT | DrussGT 1.3.7]] already beat it(they only have one battle, but still). And I'm currently too busy to work on the bots. But honestly it made so happy when I was able to beat [[Dookious]], I really like that bot. --[[User:Zyx|zyx]] 01:15, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 == Pattern Matching ==
 Can someone point me to a very good [[Pattern Matching | PM Gun]]? I have read [[Waylander]]'s (in [[DrussGT]]) and Simonton's [[WeekOnEnds]] and [[WeeklongObsession]] guns. And tried to make my own implementation based on those, but I haven't really liked the outcome. --[[User:Zyx|zyx]] 19:23, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
-If you can get hold of a copy of SeaSerpent by [[Kev]] that would probably be your best bet. Otherwise take a look at [[Toorkild]], although you may want to switch the pattern-rebuilding to velocity/delta-heading to make it more accurate. I couldn't fit that in, what with it being a micro and all. But [[Toorkild]]'s gun is ~20 points better than [[Waylander]]s, in the Micro Rumble at least. --[[User:Skilgannon|Skilgannon]] 21:38, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
+If you can get hold of a copy of SeaSerpent by [[User:Kev|Kev]] that would probably be your best bet. Otherwise take a look at [[Toorkild]], although you may want to switch the pattern-rebuilding to velocity/delta-heading to make it more accurate. I couldn't fit that in, what with it being a micro and all. But [[Toorkild]]'s gun is ~20 points better than [[Waylander]]s, in the Micro Rumble at least. --[[User:Skilgannon|Skilgannon]] 21:38, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 : Thanks, I'll check [[Toorkild]] out. --[[User:Zyx|zyx]] 02:09, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

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	Hey, I just saw that you suspect YersiniaPestis is crashing after you made that change. It could be caused by a division by 0 if you somehow find a scan that is exactly the same as the current. To prevent this I added a small constant (1E-10) to the distance the inverse was being calculated from. Hope this clears up your bug. --[[User:Skilgannon\|Skilgannon]] 17:48, 19 May 2009 (UTC)		Hey, I just saw that you suspect YersiniaPestis is crashing after you made that change. It could be caused by a division by 0 if you somehow find a scan that is exactly the same as the current. To prevent this I added a small constant (1E-10) to the distance the inverse was being calculated from. Hope this clears up your bug. --[[User:Skilgannon\|Skilgannon]] 17:48, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
−	: I was already adding 1e-9, although maybe being on the exact same scan is almost as probable as being 1e-9 away from it considering ~~all~~ attributes are ~~normalized~~, maybe a max(1e-9, distance) would be wiser, but thanks anyway. I'm almost positive is more related to skip turns, 1.3.7 was already on the edge of skipping turns every now and skipping forever. I think it will need some serious refactoring to make it faster, but I've been too busy lately. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 21:25, 19 May 2009 (UTC)	+	: I was already adding 1e-9, although maybe being on the exact same scan is almost as probable as being 1e-9 away from it considering some attributes are continuous(lateral/advance velocity), maybe a max(1e-9, distance) would be wiser, but thanks anyway. I'm almost positive is more related to skip turns, 1.3.7 was already on the edge of skipping turns every now and skipping forever. I think it will need some serious refactoring to make it faster, but I've been too busy lately. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 21:25, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
		+	: Actually not, if the bot is stopped being on the same scan is pretty easy since only the discrete attributes are non-zero. --[[User:Zyx\|zyx]] 21:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)