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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New thread: Talk from old wiki&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Whoa, nice update. http://rumble.fervir.com/rumble/RatingDetailsComparison?game=roborumble&amp;amp;name1=kc.nano.Splinter%201.0&amp;amp;name2=kc.nano.Splinter%200.2 &lt;br /&gt;
The leftmost column is stunning. =) --[[David Alves]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks! I'm amazed by how big of an improvement it was. A few small changes can go a long way. -- [[Kev]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations on getting first in the nanorumble although I will still try to take over that spot! -- [[Kinsen]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Awesome, congrats on dethroning a really long-standing champion in the nano rumble. (Looks like November of 2004 that [[Freddie]] first took the throne.) -- [[Voidious]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Hooray! Thanks all, this is an awesome result. Making [[NanoBots]] is super-addicting. I guess since Splinter's #1, I'm going to need something else to waste my time on :). Good luck with your nano bot [[Kinsen]]. -- [[Kev]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations on this result! Did you translate the lessons learned from the TwinDuel down to nano's? As for wasting your time, you don't have a team or a micro yet, and also codesize restricted melee is open for your (or anyone elses) contribution. (just trying to let you burn your oil on something else, so I can sneak up on you)  -- [[GrubbmGait]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Lessons from the [[TwinDuel]] did apply to Splinter. The aggressive distancing that played a huge role in Splinter's rating jump is very similar to [[GeminiTeam]]'s. Right now, I'm starting to make a micro bot (sort of a cross between [[Splinter]] and [[Vyper]]) that I think is going to be very strong. -- [[Kev]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, get to work on a MicroBot... The USA could have a clean sweep of the 1v1 thrones by year's end. ;) -- [[Voidious]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think its going to happen sooner than that :). I've got a working version of my new bot [[Thorn]] and it will be fine tuned shortly. It out preforms [[RaikoMicro]] in tests, especially against simple targeters because of its StopNGo movement. I'll try to release it tomorrow. Now if only I could get rid of 7 bytes... -- [[Kev]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Yay!  I'm so glad you at least got 1 byte out of me, since I got a first place nano bot out if you!!  :)  The best gun in the rumble actually fit with the best movement, so you had to figure someone was going to do it sometime.  (By the way, is codesize measured in bytes or something else?).  Happy new year!  -- [[Simonton]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Grr.  If I could just pick up ONE byte more byte in WeekendObsession S I might stand a chance against the newest Splinter!  But I really don't think it's in there.  The new StopNGo decider obvioulsy didn't work out.  --[[Simonton]]&lt;br /&gt;
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It looks like the better movement mode control and distancing in [[Splinter]] is still worth the better gun in [[WeekendObsession]]. I've been in situations like that with code size all too often (I've managed to get the current version on [[Splinter]] down to 249 bytes exactly). Good luck with your bots; they are showing great promise. -- [[Kev]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Yup.  I have one more try (when I get around to releasing 1.5), and then I will give up.  Unless some other great idea comes along, of course.  Thanks for the good wishes!  You made some nice tweaks to [[Splinter]] there.  He definitely looks out of sight.  Now just don't go tweaking [[Thorn]], &lt;br /&gt;
ok??  :)  Just kidding.  --[[Simonton]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Too late, I just did :). By the way, what was that &amp;quot;small tweak&amp;quot; you did in [[WeekendObsession]]? Although its a little early to tell, but it looks like [[WeekendObsession]] had gained about 20 points in the nano rumble with version 1.5! Whatever it was, great job. It might have pushed [[WeekendObsession]] out of [[Splinter]]'s reach. -- [[Kev]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;:)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;.  Oh, you know, just a little change of a variable.  I'm surprised by the results right now.  I think it's going to take a dive soon.  This change was definitely at the expense of 2nd place in the PremierLeague.  But you need to check on Thorn ... it looks like he must be failing on some people's clients??  -- [[Simonton]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Ah, I think it's because [[Thorn]] 1.12 uses Rules.getBullletPower() which some versions of robocode don't have. No matter, I just put in a new version if [[Thorn]] that doesn't use Rules.getBullletPower() with no real change to its strength.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ah yes, that looks much better :).k --[[Simonton]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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