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I thought SandboxDT 3+ was an actual surfer. But your right they are very similar in performance.

I am just glad I finally dug Seraphim out of the rank 50 rut it was in. I only changed about 14 lines of code. The big bugs were only about 3 lines worth, but I wanted to keep the flattener, and fix a minor bug I noticed.

Chase05:53, 22 February 2013