Archived talk:User:CrazyBassoonist 2009/08/18

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For some reason I cannot access robocoderepository.com, does anyone know why that might be?--CrazyBassoonist 02:25, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I've been having troubles since monday. is the pages not loading or a 404 thing? --HACKhalo2 02:28, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't have any problem. Maybe your ISP blocked it? » Nat | Talk » 06:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure. It will load for me on one computer, but not on the one with Robocode on it.--CrazyBassoonist 12:15, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


Bad Results

For some reason, the new Acraepheus was doing well then started getting zeros. Is this the result of a bug with a different version of robocode, or bad results being uploaded?--CrazyBassoonist 22:01, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

By the way, I have 1.6.2--CrazyBassoonist 22:08, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

The results I'm running show your bot doing fairly well. Perhaps it is a client issue or something. --Miked0801 22:41, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
It appears the Voidious's server is the one giving you all the 0s. Perhaps you have an exception or something that only shows up in version 1.5.4? Dunno. --Miked0801 22:44, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

You're right, thank you very much for drawing that to my attention. Does anyone know of any issues like this that occur in 1.5.4 but not in other versions?--CrazyBassoonist 22:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Argh, not sure what the problem is, but killed my clients for now. I'll add you to my exclude list before I start 'em again until we figure it out. --Voidious 23:00, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. By now I'm guessing that what I need to do is figure out what is making errors in 1.5.4 and fix it then re-upload those versions. --CrazyBassoonist 23:06, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I was on my way out the door before. Here's the error being hit in 1.5.4: 

Acraepheus 2.2 (1): Throwable: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: oog.Acraepheus.getGraphics()Ljava/awt/Graphics2D;
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: oog.Acraepheus.getGraphics()Ljava/awt/Graphics2D;
    at oog.Acraepheus.onScannedRobot(Acraepheus.java:75)
    at robocode.peer.robot.EventManager.onScannedRobot(Unknown Source)
    at robocode.peer.robot.EventManager.processEvents(Unknown Source)
    at robocode.peer.RobotPeer.tick(Unknown Source)
    at robocode.peer.RobotPeer.turnRadar(Unknown Source)
    at robocode._AdvancedRadiansRobot.turnRadarRightRadians(Unknown Source)
    at oog.Acraepheus.run(Acraepheus.java:71)
    at robocode.peer.RobotPeer.run(Unknown Source)
    at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619)

I don't mind updating my clients, but unfortunately, there's no guarantee someone else won't run 1.5.4 as long as it's still allowed...

--Voidious 23:52, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

And I believe that error would happen in 1.6.0 too, I had the same problem once, since then I always get the Graphics2D object out of the onPaint method only. --zyx 01:03, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Well it looks like it's just a problem with the debugging graphics. Line 75 is this: 

Graphics 2D g=getGraphics();

Shouldn't hurt that much to remove it, I probably should have left the debugging graphics out anyway.--CrazyBassoonist 00:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I've now got it fixed, thanks for the help. How long does it take the rumble to remove robots that have been removed from the participants list? Even some of my very old robots seem to be there still--CrazyBassoonist 01:08, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

It's not a static delay, as far as I know it's just that it only allows removals from Darkcanuck's clients. That's usually within a day or so, in my experience. No need to wait on posting your new versions, though, at least if you ask me. =) --Voidious 01:17, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I was more concerned about the old versions being gigantic problembots for others due to the zeros. Is it normal to see scores that you can't replicate in tests? I've tried my robot against barracuda 1.0 about 20 times by now, and the lowest score I've recorded so far has been 42%. How could it have ended up with 32% against it in the roborumble?--CrazyBassoonist 01:42, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Nope, and I also get incredibly frustrated when I see battle results that I can't duplicate locally. But there can be a surprising amount of variance in Robocode battles. --Voidious 01:49, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Behold, the demon known as Standard Deviation - bane of all robocoders looking for consistant results :) --01:57, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

But wait a second.... I realize that that's within the realm of probability, but what about the 10% against pkkillers.PKassassin? I average around 50% on him in my own tests.... And acraepheus hasn't been doing too well against duelistMicro, but 3% is really pushing it=( Anyway, standard deviance or not, I must sleep now so I'll try to see what it is tomorrow--CrazyBassoonist 02:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

In both cases, the other bot only has a couple hundred bullet damage (way cool we can see that on Darkcanuck's server), which leads me to believe your bot must have errored out somehow... --Voidious 02:10, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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