SecurityManager replacement

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How comes that User:FlemmingLarsen kept the Tank Royale announcement outside of this Wiki? I think it seems to be the clear direction for a switch. It would be nice to have a bridge for legacy bots to run to avoid loss of historical stats. But the use of standard coordinate alone would justify the switch for me :) Also we would need a new rumble logic to be done.

I also get tired of java where a lot of high level math libraries need to be reinvented. I would love to see what is possible if we do not have to build our own implementation of machine learning tools.

We might get new flock of people if a python API is available.

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Tank Royale is very exciting in allowing Python & C++, since a lot of us are tired optimizing Java code to make it more C.

However, Python & C++ are not as platform independent as Java, so in order to build a rumble ranking that everyone can run on their own, we must find some solutions. This could be the long term choice anyway.

In the short term, Security Manager is still there, and sticking to Java <=17 isn’t very bad as a lot of companies are still using Java 8. We have plenty of time to develop our own sandbox solutions, which is still useful for Tank Royale.

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Tank Royale definitely sounds exciting. I feel like we would get a lot of new people if people could use more than just Java. I haven't looked at the technical details of Tank Royale but WASM sounds like a secure environment and a variety of languages can be compiled to it.

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WASM is a great idea, we could keep a list of supported languages, where Java can use existing JVM sandbox, and C++ & Javascript into WASM. Not sure how Python can be adequately supported in this mode though, popular frameworks such as Numpy, Tensorflow & Pytorch are all not fully Python.

Update: Pyodide is a full WASM CPython implementation with Numpy support, which can be a good starting point.

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