Archived talk:RoboRumble

Hey, I have one question. Is it the rules of TeamRumble set amount of bots in team to 5? I think some teams in teamrumble have only 4 bots. If there are no limit on bots number, how about some team with maximum robots that robocode can process (10 bots)? » Nat | Talk » 09:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

So far as I understand, it's considered a rule that you're allowed 5 or less team members in TeamRumble. I'm not sure it's formally stated anywhere but that is the general understanding I believe. Expect people to remove it if you add a team with 10 bots ;) --Rednaxela 17:30, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I not sure there are people removing now =( I saw that GrubbmGait sometimes contribute team rumble (arround 6 battle per month) and I sometimes contribute team rumble, too. (I almost run 3 rumbles at same time! so the rsult may corrupt since I run 3 battle, create robot using eclipse, surf the internet on firefox with about 50 tabs, do my work on Word and Excel 2007, edit image for work in Photoshop CS3. All of that run togeather on my 2-years-old notebook with 1GB of ram! (although it dual-core, my computer also run 3 apache, 2 mysql, 1 tomcat, 3 mail server, IIS and other @Home operation (SETI@HOME etc.) in background which result in over thousand of threads to process in one cpu cycle!)) My computer sometime crash and I close teamrumble and meleerumble so the result will be given only to roborumble. I've enter MiniAtomicOperation for about 3 months and got only 17 battles! I don't think there are actually one who test every bot in teamrumble! (In fact, I don't think there're someone who download team rumble for testbed! Robocode 1.6.2 has seriously bug on team, I can't run any team create from my 1.6.2, also some jar like PairOfShiz ain't batleable, too.) » Nat | Talk » 09:11, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Note that MiniAtomicOperation is not listed in the TeamParticipants page on the old wiki, so it is understandable that it does not get much battles. on the 'old' CurrentRankings page it is stated that Teambattles are on a 1200 by 1200 field over 10 rounds with 2 teams with 5 bots each. Some teams really expect 5 opponents, I ran into that when testing my first TwinDuel twin against some teams from the TeamRumble, so I would expect some strange results when fighting with a team with less or more than 5 bots. --GrubbmGait 00:25, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Really? I have not check that page yet but I know that last old-wiki downtime cause loosing many change include my robot! I have to add them, then. But I not expect much with this team! You see on my page, It just a mix of those robots! » Nat | Talk » 05:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

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Hi! I don't know where to ask, so I write here. I'd be glad to see the Hungarian flag next to my name in RoboRumble. How can I set it? --HUNRobar 11:32, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I think you need to post on the old wiki RoboRumble/CnoutryFlag page. But, indeed, I think he may check this page, too. I don't know, let ask Darkcanuck! » Nat | Talk » 12:15, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I've just written to CountryFlags, hope they realise. ;) Er, one more question: can Robocode use somehow quad-core processors? If yes, how can I configure it? Now I see that only 2 cores are used. And one more. :D I'd like to download nz.jdc.nano.* robots, but the repository can't find bots with such ids. Anyway, if a bot can't be downloaded then it's corrupted and must be removed from rumble, mustn't it? --HUNRobar 16:17, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

New version of robocode do have special command-line option to run multiple bots in parallel to allow more full CPU usage, however this mode should NOT be used for the rumble. The issue is that it can allow one robot using lots of CPU to starve the other bot(s) of CPU and make them skip turns too. For your own testing feel free to use that of course, but it's not safe for rumble until/unless Robocode starts measuring actually CPU time used by the bot thread instead of clock time that the bot spends in a tick (there are some issues that make fixing that difficult though). As far as robots that don't download, you you check the zip files linked here. The downloads in the participants list really should be fixed indeed though. --Rednaxela 23:19, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I think current robocode use only one cpu to processing bot behavior but it can use another core for other processing such as battlefield redraw, scoring etc. » Nat | Talk » 05:06, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi! Does anybody have nz.jdc.nano.Neophyte* bots? I'd really need them to test against, but I've never been able to download them. Other thing would be my flag. I've posted to countryflags but nothing has happened for weeks. --HUNRobar 14:24, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

• I'll try to make a new or additional zip this evening. --GrubbmGait 15:48, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, that would worth much for me. Many bots like Grinnik 0.7, neophytes, Moebius and others are all corrupted or undownloadable. --HUNRobar 17:43, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

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Hey Darkcanuck, do your server rejected 0 score? See this [1] There should be some mistake somewhere. » Nat | Talk » 09:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Have you run battles between them yourself? Your bot has many more 0 scores than that, check the battles against the bots you have very low score. Usually at least in one of the battles you had a 0 score. Maybe for start positions or something you bor can get into a skip turn streak or something like that. --zyx 22:48, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

My server happily accepts zero scores! :) I don't believe that filtering out zeros is fair to bots that don't crash/hang, and it's quite possible for a top bot to win a match against a weaker one without ever being hit. I researched this issue on the old wiki before making this decision, and it appears that the old server rejected zeros to work around bugs in the original client. --Darkcanuck 04:48, 26 March 2009 (UTC)