Melee WaveSuffering

I just want to say, if you thought 1v1 WaveSuffering was bad, melee is on a whole different level. For instance, in 1v1 the changes I made from 1.1 to 1.2 would probably boost my score by over 1%, but in melee it got lost in the noise. I've done a major restructure to allow me to keep post-scantime-interpolated snapshots of where everybody is on the battlefield, and to let my wavesurfing get updated by it to use the improved wave centres, enemy locations at fire etc. As far as I can tell everything is working perfectly, but it now tanks fairly horribly against simple targeters outside of the 1v1 context.

I can only imagine. And you're making me feel pretty good about my hunch that there's not enough data in Melee to effectively surf. :-) But if your score is tanking vs simple targeters, I have to think you have introduced a bug somewhere. How could it be otherwise?

Unless there's a side effect to the predictability of your movement profile, or other risk factors are now being under-weighted... I guess there's a lot to consider. But if it's really that much more accurate, I'd expect the scores to improve after some re-tuning, right?

I guess, in melee you have to be careful with wave surfing taken from 1v1, because you can not just move to the least dangerous position. The field changes sometimes very quickly, especially in the first rounds, that it would be better to do some sort of weighting between defense and offense. Most bots that only avoiding confrontations get caught on a local maximum and if the whole field changes it position they are in a very bad position. A nice example is, if Wallaby goes for a corner and moves closer and closer, most bots get out of the corner because the risk raises and end up in the open field. I guess a well weighted wave surfing combined with a nice minimum risk would be awesome if not to say superior :). Just my 2cents.

My observation for simple targeters is, that because of the radar sweeps most guns shoot not straight HOT or linear. There is always a little shift. Especially nano bots have not very reliable (from defenders point of view) simple targeting. The fact that most nano bots don't have the setAdjustXX() methods set is also one thing that they don't shoot 'straight'.