Talk:Shadow/Version History

ShadowHawk Experiment

Ooh... very interesting to hear about the ShadowHawk Experiment... that certainly makes me feel more optimistic about my melee bot in progress, who while using head-on-targeting outscores HawkOnFire with it's min-risk/bullet-dodging movement. Now I just got to finish my fancy melee gun... :) --Rednaxela 13:18, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, very cool. I didn't expect it to rank quite so high - HoF is truly amazing. And Rednaxela, finish up that bot and post it, already! Can't you call in sick to work or something? =) --Voidious 13:34, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

(getting used to edit conflict =)) ShadowHawk lose to 3 robots while Shadow 3.84 lose to no one. Why do you call it "better than everyone else"? But Hawk's movement is still one of the best melee movement. It is clear that your improving in Shadow's melee movement is success (if you have really no idea what I'm talking about, visit oldwiki:BotsThatShouldBeOpenSource and scroll down to slightly below the middle of the page) I wonder what will it do with Shiz's movement, but KPL won't allow that =( rozu stated himself that Shiz one was better than Hawk's, but it is a bit larger. » Nat | Talk » 13:37, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Better than everyone else except Shadow, of course :). I know I've had success improving Shadows melee movement, that page you mentioned brings back some memories :). About ShadowHawk, apart form HoF movement still being very competitive, I hope it also means my melee gun is very good. I would like to see where the other melee guns stand compared to mine. I'm probably also trying some slightly different combinations, ShadowHawk 1.0 doesn't switch to Shadows 1on1 movement, I'll try that next. --ABC 14:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I've been planning to post a test version of Diamond using just HOT, but maybe I'll do as you did for a closer comparison. Yes, your gun is quite excellent, to say the least. By the way, did you control the radar or keep HoF's radar? --Voidious 14:10, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Really??? It uses Hawk's movement for one-on-one too? Very impressive! I thought that you use Shadow's 1v1 movement too! To answer your question, ABC have used Shadow's radar for ShadowHawk, unless HawkOnFire uses oldest scanned radar... » Nat | Talk » 14:37, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I know for a fact that HOF uses plain spinning radar, until 1v1 when it establishes a lock :) --Rednaxela 14:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I wonder if I should have started my gun before my movement in this case... given how MiniSurreptitious isn't that far behind HawkOnFire. Haha :) --Rednaxela 14:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I notice you point out that Shadow 3.84 is only 1.2% APS ahead of ShadowHawk 1.0. Are you forgetting that 3.83 is 0.7% APS better than 3.84? (That's the version of Shadow I keep on my mental radar... =)) --Voidious 18:18, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware of that. But I haven't given up on this new movement yet, so my reference for now is v3.84. Unless someone outranks it in the meantime... :) --ABC 21:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)