Are the robots we create alive?

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Yes, she could have picked the latter option. It was a potential outcome, as was the former. But, she did not. Why didn't she? Because she used her judgement and decided to pick the former.

Her knowledge and memories were the inputs to her judgement, and her decision was the output. Technically speaking, she did not have free will as her knowledge and memories were acquired from prior events. But, to have free will, she couldn't let prior events determine her decision, so she would have to abandon her judgement.

In conclusion, you can keep your free will,

I will choose a path that's clear
I will choose rational judgement.

Sheldor01:40, 6 March 2013

There was 3 judgements up there. Alice must abandon 2 judgements, no matter the choice made.

MN03:01, 6 March 2013

I don't understand what you are saying.

Sheldor03:05, 6 March 2013
 

Knowledge and memories make Alice realize she has 3 (or more) choices.

MN16:30, 6 March 2013
 

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I'm saying she has the choice to go after the motivation or not.

MN18:35, 6 March 2013
 

Her motivation isn't really that relevant to the question of free will vs. determinism. I was assuming that her main motivation would be financial, but even if it wasn't, it would only change the outcome, and not the process of decision-making.

Sheldor01:10, 7 March 2013