http://robowiki.net/w/index.php?title=Thread:User_talk:Sheldor/Are_the_robots_we_create_alive%3F/reply_(98)&feed=atom&action=historyThread:User talk:Sheldor/Are the robots we create alive?/reply (98) - Revision history2024-03-28T08:58:52ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.34.1http://robowiki.net/w/index.php?title=Thread:User_talk:Sheldor/Are_the_robots_we_create_alive%3F/reply_(98)&diff=29417&oldid=prevSheldor: Minor edit.2013-03-05T17:14:43Z<p>Minor edit.</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
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</table>Sheldorhttp://robowiki.net/w/index.php?title=Thread:User_talk:Sheldor/Are_the_robots_we_create_alive%3F/reply_(98)&diff=29416&oldid=prevSheldor: Reply to Are the robots we create alive?2013-03-05T17:09:15Z<p>Reply to <a href="/wiki/Thread:User_talk:Sheldor/Are_the_robots_we_create_alive%3F/reply_(96)" title="Thread:User talk:Sheldor/Are the robots we create alive?/reply (96)">Are the robots we create alive?</a></p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>We do make choices. I never said or even intentionally implied that we don't.<br />
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Determinism is simply the idea that everything in the universe has a causal relationship with everything else in the universe, and can only behave in one way. For example, let's say that I decide to eat a pizza for lunch instead of a salad. A determinist would say that all my past experiences, as well as the environment around me, and countless other things directly caused me to choose to eat the pizza.<br />
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Notice that from the deterministic perspective, '''''I'' actually ''make'' a choice'''. I use all my memories to weigh both options and choose the one that benefits me the most.<br />
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Please, listen to the [http://www.radiolab.org/2011/oct/04/repeat/ Radiolab clip] I linked to. The latter half talks about a woman with transient global amnesia. It is an excellent example of human determinism.</div>Sheldor