Talk:BulletCatcher

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93.22 against CunobelinDC? Are you kidding me? I can't wait to watch some battles and see how you're doing this. =) Nice work! --Voidious 14:33, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

91.98 against Hydra is probably more amazing =) I never saw this -76 PBI before! » Nat | Talk » 15:07, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's the most important thing about this bot. I think it will knock Hydra down enough that Diamond will be #4. :-D Thanks dude! --Voidious 15:59, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Aha! Very precise Bullet Shielding while trying to remain unmoving so they always fire exactly head-on! Even a tiny tiny random factor in aim will foil BulletCatcher, but still, many bots this will work on. GF-targeting bots often end up just by chance learning something slightly off-center so they often hit it, however the first few shots are still caught by BulletCatcher (See what happens when YP faces BulletCatcher! Neat!). Additionally, BulletCatcher doesn't hit exactly-head-on bullets from RougeDC and Shadow, because they are two of the very few bots that predict their own location on the next tick when calculating where they need to rotate their gun. I'm not sure what makes Komarious inaccurate and sometimes even completely miss the near-stationary bot, but it's intermittent inaccuracy saves it's life against BulletCatcher. Very interesting bot here! --Rednaxela 15:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

(2 edit conflicts) He he... I love his secret =) He just sits still and aim head-on at enemy with bullet power 0.1 to destroy enemy bullets... It won't work with a lot of robot since a little slippage though. Amazing bot! I wonder if I take a strategy like this to destroy some bots completely and switch back to normal when it didn't seem to be success? » Nat | Talk » 15:20, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Haha, but the fun part is it isn't -quite- still. It moves just slightly back and forth in order to get a slight angle on the bullet it appears :) --Rednaxela 15:23, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Right (edit conflict =)), he can't be sitting exactly still, since two HOT bullets would be parallel and not intersect and thus not collide (if I remember how bullet intersections work). As for K's inaccuracy, to truly fire straight at the center of an opponent, you need to predict your own location next tick, which of course would be a lot of code for little benefit in a MiniBot. So she would fire at the HOT bearing from the previous tick. --Voidious 15:29, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
About K's inaccuracy, I don't think that's it. As I already noted: The bots that BulletCatcher DOES hit are only ones that don't predict their own location next tick. See how it blocks the first couple bullets from YP but not from RougeDC or Shadow. Either Komarious has some other inaccuracy, or the way that Komarious moves causes distortion in a far different way than CunobelinDC, enough that it completely misses the nearly unmoving bot occasionally. --Rednaxela 15:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
You're right, I was just sitting here thinking about that. =) Obviously BulletCatcher can't predict my location next tick (though it could come pretty close - idea to try?), so it would actually help to predict it against BulletCatcher. I don't think predicting your location next tick is all that rare, though, I know at least CassiusClay, Ascendant, Phoenix, I'd assume DrussGT, and all my 1v1 MegaBots have done it, too. K also stays very far away, possibly amplifying the effect of any inaccuracy - I'm curious to go take a look. --Voidious 15:39, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

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