Congratulations on recent updates!

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It's rather hard to improve even a tiny at the top, and now I see Knight ascended to #6 with noticeable APS gain after a few versions, congratulations!

I also came back to ScalarBot and decided now to do what I really want to do. I found myself changing things I don't want to change and ended up losing points, so now I switched to focus on what I want to do the most, and gained noticeable improvement, e.g. ScalarBot 2.8 wins around 60% constantly against 2.7.101. I think the most important part about this game is not about tweaking style only tiny things, rather, aggressive changes that gets the point gives you the most gains. Yes, tiny things are still important, but I think you can lose score easily by making mistake in it, but you can never earn a tiny from that.

Btw, I'm really interested in the recent changes of Knight ;) Well you add that at some point?

Xor (talk)14:00, 18 November 2017

Excited to see ScalarBot moving to the GoTo-style movement! I was planning to do so this weekend, but probably for different reasons as I'm almost sure I won't gain any points solely because of it, I struggle a lot with GoTo :P

I've mostly worked on hitting and dodging random movers recently, I never run battles against Knight itself. Seems to be a nice thing to do for my next experiments.

Sure, I'll post them soon but they were mostly anti-random gun changes and the experiments are still ongoing. The reason I've not been posting too much is that I moved to another city to an internship and I have a very low cost laptop right now, so I barely open the browser :P But I'm writing down all my change log on file and I'll update the wiki with it soon. Hope I can grab some good improvements over this weekend.

Rsalesc (talk)14:55, 18 November 2017

Just read more carefully the change logs now and it seems that it is Scalar that is actually moving to GoTo. :P

Rsalesc (talk)15:00, 18 November 2017

Well the name seems confusing ;) And only its 1v1 movement is GoTo ;)

Xor (talk)16:21, 18 November 2017

I second that, really nice improvements the last weeks from your sides. But indeed, the air is getting thin so it is hard to get higher in the ranking/APS. Although my big changes, to be able to use BulletShadows, are a bit postponed due to failed preconditions (0.3.21-0.3.23), fixing/improving some small stuff when you encounter them can also be satisfying. I rather fix things and then take the big step, then the other way round, because that big step will blur the things to fix/improve.

GrubbmGait (talk)15:26, 18 November 2017

I'm mostly doing this right now. While developing Roborio I could take a glimpse of what it is like to do a feature-driven development, and it certainly haven't paid out. When I rewrote the code I could find a dozen bugs lurking around my gun and my movement and eventually Knight became really different from the former just because of those bugs. To avoid losing my motivation (which is very important as well, we gotta have fun at the end of the day), I'm interpolating fixes/tweaks with new features/experiments.

Rsalesc (talk)17:45, 19 November 2017
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